• Skeptics: if you agree that this formula debunks the greenhouse effect ... ?

    ... can you explain how it does to the rest of us? << Using this simple formula derived from the Ideal Gas Law, the average near-surface temperature for any planetary body having an atmospheric pressure at 10Kpa or more can be calculated, Greenhouse Gases are excluded because they produce no warming ; T = P/ (R x p/n) T = near-surface... show more
    ... can you explain how it does to the rest of us? << Using this simple formula derived from the Ideal Gas Law, the average near-surface temperature for any planetary body having an atmospheric pressure at 10Kpa or more can be calculated, Greenhouse Gases are excluded because they produce no warming ; T = P/ (R x p/n) T = near-surface atmospheric temperature in Kelvin P = near-surface atmospheric pressure in kPa R = gas constant 8.314 ρ = near-surface atmospheric density in kg/m³ n = near-surface atmospheric mean molecular weight (in grams per mole) - Earth details from WIKI: Pressure = l01.3, R = gas constant 8.314, p = 1.225 ,n = 28.97 - **Temperature = 288.3K = 15.3 C - This formula debunks the Radiative Greenhouse effect. >> Or, if you don't agree, can you explain to Solar where he's getting it wrong? ------------ Thanks in anticipation; 10 points for a good skeptic answer!
    12 answers · Global Warming · 5 days ago
  • How helpful is the "skeptic" claim that "It's been warming since the end of the Little Ice Age" ...?

    ... how helpful is that claim in informing us about man made global warming? The implication being of course, that some or perhaps all of the warming since then, must be natural! How helpful is that line of reasoning? Clearly it's not wrong, but isn't the most likely explanation the increasing levels of greenhouse gasses in the... show more
    ... how helpful is that claim in informing us about man made global warming? The implication being of course, that some or perhaps all of the warming since then, must be natural! How helpful is that line of reasoning? Clearly it's not wrong, but isn't the most likely explanation the increasing levels of greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere?I Please don't get me wrong; I'm not claiming it is all down to GHG's, but is there any reason to believe that, in the absence of human influence, the world would still be warming naturally today? If there is such reason, what is it? Or, if we don't know, isn't cooling equally likely? What does the data say (instrumental and proxy) and what is the best explanation? Can you do better than simply stating some variant of "warming after the Little Ice Age"? ... which, I would suggest, is of no help at all!
    11 answers · Global Warming · 3 weeks ago
  • Is CO2 increasing as a result of warming?

    One of the regulars (gc) recently said; <<CO2 is being increased by man but CO2 is also being increased because it is getting warmer>> Is that correct? If so, where is the increase coming from? What is the source of this extra CO2? Or, if not correct, where is gc getting it wrong?
    One of the regulars (gc) recently said; <<CO2 is being increased by man but CO2 is also being increased because it is getting warmer>> Is that correct? If so, where is the increase coming from? What is the source of this extra CO2? Or, if not correct, where is gc getting it wrong?
    13 answers · Global Warming · 4 weeks ago
  • How would "skeptics" have reassured people on the Titanic ...?

    ... shortly after the collision? Would some have made statements such as "There's been hardly any sinking in the last 20 minutes"? "Alarmists want to blame it all on the iceberg"? "Andrews believes in Peak Horses too; he's just a liberal with an agenda, like all those in the White Star cult"? Would some have... show more
    ... shortly after the collision? Would some have made statements such as "There's been hardly any sinking in the last 20 minutes"? "Alarmists want to blame it all on the iceberg"? "Andrews believes in Peak Horses too; he's just a liberal with an agenda, like all those in the White Star cult"? Would some have produced a graph, showing the amount of sinking since the ship set sail, with the y axis scaled to the depth of the ocean, fitted a linear trend of 0.63m/day and said "Nothing to worry about; plenty of time to reach port"? But surely there would have been none so deranged and deluded as to say, "Ice is lighter than metal and a lighter object can't sink a heavier object; that would be against the laws of hydrodynamics." and ... "Its all controlled by the Sun, which will rise soon and we will transition to a record floating trend. Measurements taken at the stern prove this has already started." Surely none could have been that dumb, could they? What else might they have said?
    8 answers · Global Warming · 1 month ago
  • Is anyone else experiencing Denier Fatigue?

    Is anyone else, when faced with yet another "skeptic" argument or claim that has been repeated ad nauseam; is anyone else finding it difficult to put finger to keyboard to correct the misinformation, knowing that, no matter how many times you and your fellow proponents do so, the effect on the "skeptic" knowledge base will be... show more
    Is anyone else, when faced with yet another "skeptic" argument or claim that has been repeated ad nauseam; is anyone else finding it difficult to put finger to keyboard to correct the misinformation, knowing that, no matter how many times you and your fellow proponents do so, the effect on the "skeptic" knowledge base will be almost certainly zero, and will just attract illiterate or abusive comments, which you will feel obliged to respond to, wasting more of your valuable time in a descending spiral of absurdity, the only way out of which is to walk away, reminding yourself never to argue with fools ... Does anyone else find themselves thinking "maybe next time" and moving on to something more constructive?
    9 answers · Global Warming · 1 month ago
  • If what you are is God's gift to you and what you become is your gift back to God, how happy would he be to receive a global warming denier?

    How pleased would God be to receive someone who, of all the things they could have done, spent their time spreading ignorance and deception about the laws of physics of his creation, whilst pouring ridicule and scorn on those who are concerned for the well-being of others and of our stewardship of his planet?
    How pleased would God be to receive someone who, of all the things they could have done, spent their time spreading ignorance and deception about the laws of physics of his creation, whilst pouring ridicule and scorn on those who are concerned for the well-being of others and of our stewardship of his planet?
    1 answer · Global Warming · 1 month ago
  • What are your views on taxation ... ?

    ... general principles and, in particular, as a means of tackling global warming and climate change?
    ... general principles and, in particular, as a means of tackling global warming and climate change?
    11 answers · Global Warming · 2 months ago
  • In a game of Russian Roulette, isn't the best strategy to not pull the trigger ...?

    ... rather than debate whether or not the safety catch is on, the aim is off, the ammunition is dud, or blank, or nonlethal, or that the odds favour an empty chamber, ... ... isn't the best strategy to avoid pulling the trigger, if we can? A Global Warming question!
    ... rather than debate whether or not the safety catch is on, the aim is off, the ammunition is dud, or blank, or nonlethal, or that the odds favour an empty chamber, ... ... isn't the best strategy to avoid pulling the trigger, if we can? A Global Warming question!
    8 answers · Global Warming · 2 months ago
  • Why are "skeptics" now talking about "American Made Global Warming"?

    What's all that about?
    What's all that about?
    10 answers · Global Warming · 2 months ago
  • Is 2018 on track to be the warmest year in the instrumental record?

    Heard it on the radio this morning (BBC radio 4) whilst driving to work. No other information was given. Is this correct? I could have misheard, given road and traffic noise, but if it is correct, given the dominance of neutral to La Nine conditions this year, isn't this cause for alarm? If not correct, how warm is this year likely to be?
    Heard it on the radio this morning (BBC radio 4) whilst driving to work. No other information was given. Is this correct? I could have misheard, given road and traffic noise, but if it is correct, given the dominance of neutral to La Nine conditions this year, isn't this cause for alarm? If not correct, how warm is this year likely to be?
    10 answers · Global Warming · 2 months ago
  • How warm do you think 2018 will be ...?

    ... assuming things continue more or less as they are, how warm do you think 2018 will be? I would say a tie with 2014 (or 2010 for the satellite data), based on a quick look at the El Nino index, and assuming an underlying warming trend. Now that's fairly precise, so almost certain to be wrong ... So, based on your understanding of the... show more
    ... assuming things continue more or less as they are, how warm do you think 2018 will be? I would say a tie with 2014 (or 2010 for the satellite data), based on a quick look at the El Nino index, and assuming an underlying warming trend. Now that's fairly precise, so almost certain to be wrong ... So, based on your understanding of the climate system, how warm do you expect this year to be? ... and briefly, why?
    10 answers · Global Warming · 3 months ago
  • Does the question of "Atmospheric Pressure" best highlight the differences between proponent and skeptic reasoning ...?

    ... with proponents talking in terms of radiative equilibrium, while skeptics focus on comparisons with Venus. What's your understanding of the idea that, in the absence of GHG's, there would still be a warming effect from pressure alone, increasing temperature over and above that determined by the incoming solar radiation? What... show more
    ... with proponents talking in terms of radiative equilibrium, while skeptics focus on comparisons with Venus. What's your understanding of the idea that, in the absence of GHG's, there would still be a warming effect from pressure alone, increasing temperature over and above that determined by the incoming solar radiation? What differences are there between the way proponents and skeptics approach th this? Where does the other side get it wrong?
    6 answers · Global Warming · 3 months ago
  • What can you tell me about hurricanes ...?

    ... how they form and evolve etc; also, how are they predicted to change in our warming world? What of empirical evidence; have there been any observed changes? ... or do we need a few more decades of data?
    ... how they form and evolve etc; also, how are they predicted to change in our warming world? What of empirical evidence; have there been any observed changes? ... or do we need a few more decades of data?
    10 answers · Global Warming · 3 months ago
  • If increasing CO2 is greenng the Earth, would that be a positive, or a negative feedback?

    ... or perhaps no significant difference. What effect, if any, would there be on Albedo?
    ... or perhaps no significant difference. What effect, if any, would there be on Albedo?
    5 answers · Global Warming · 3 months ago
  • Apart from Solar, does anyone believe in imminent cooling?

    If, in your view, the warming has slowed, stopped or reversed, and that Global average temperatures will fall over the next couple of decades of so, on what evidence do you base that view?
    If, in your view, the warming has slowed, stopped or reversed, and that Global average temperatures will fall over the next couple of decades of so, on what evidence do you base that view?
    5 answers · Global Warming · 4 months ago
  • Can the Albedo feedback be dismissed so lightly?

    A skeptic recently commented that . .. "Feedbacks. the only one is albedo and that is insignificant. Why is albedo insignificant, well most ice and snow is around during the winter when the sun is low on the horizon." But in the absence of snow and ice, doesn't this mean typically two or three times the energy from the Sun is... show more
    A skeptic recently commented that . .. "Feedbacks. the only one is albedo and that is insignificant. Why is albedo insignificant, well most ice and snow is around during the winter when the sun is low on the horizon." But in the absence of snow and ice, doesn't this mean typically two or three times the energy from the Sun is absorbed? Keeping in mind that cooler areas would need less energy for a given temperature increase, then even if the Sun is relatively low on the horizon, surely that level of increased energy is going to make a difference, isn't it?
    5 answers · Global Warming · 4 months ago
  • Can the Water Vapour feedback be dismissed so lightly?

    A skeptic recently commented that . .. "Feedbacks. the only one is albedo and that is insignificant. water vapor is not a feedback, yesterday it rained and the temperature fell by 4C, 4 C surface temperature is a huge amount of heat Where did it go? high up the atmosphere replaced by cooling condensate. what happen to that heat up there?... show more
    A skeptic recently commented that . .. "Feedbacks. the only one is albedo and that is insignificant. water vapor is not a feedback, yesterday it rained and the temperature fell by 4C, 4 C surface temperature is a huge amount of heat Where did it go? high up the atmosphere replaced by cooling condensate. what happen to that heat up there? well a lot got radiated into space. water vapor is equally cooling as warming and more than that it's regulating."
    3 answers · Global Warming · 4 months ago
  • Global Warming: Who are the most alarmist here; deniers or alarmists ...?

    ... or skeptics and proponents, if you prefer. Who are the most alarmist? ... and why?
    ... or skeptics and proponents, if you prefer. Who are the most alarmist? ... and why?
    11 answers · Global Warming · 4 months ago
  • Conservatives: What are your views on Global Warming and Climate Change?

    Attribution, risk and solutions?
    Attribution, risk and solutions?
    5 answers · Global Warming · 5 months ago